My mind bloweth over, once again, Ferdinand! Many thnx! I do enjoy your writing & your rational reasoning. Please, please continue as long as is humanely possible!
And now im going to say something likely to elicite, at the very least, a deep, sorrowful sigh, or potentially, a horror-gripping scream...! Here goes...I have become more & more a Pythagorean since reading your posts!. Im more & more convinced that number underlies all of 'reality' which fundamentally must first be a conceptual thing before it can be a perceptual thing. In other words, to my way of thinking, 'materialism' looks less & less an adequate all-encompassing (unifying ?) model of reality. Irrespective of Einstotlean cult worship.
A Heliocentric truth wouldn't surprise me in the least & nor would an aether.
For me, it was the discovery of the imaginary number i, and all that followed (complex numbers, fractal geometry & quantum mechanics) that shouted loudly at my pondering mind. Why? Because of course imaginary numbers aren't conceptually possible without a conscious awareness. The "imaginary number" was of course discovered- not invented (even by a mathmagician) - it is clearly interwoven in our preceived material reality and yet, by definition, it is not a material thing or the product of a material thing as it must have existed prior to our percieved material universe.
Long winded, sorry! If you disagree i would be really grateful to hear your reasoning.
Hi Andrew, good comment thanks. To be honest you and Pythagoras could be right about numbers, though let's remember he was chased out of Sicily when his cult devolved to the occult (same happened to Plato). There is something about the creation of what we see around us, that points to numbers. The great Cathedrals are geometrically symmetrical and mathematically perfect in construction and form, yet the masters that built them had no need of 'the science' just 3d geometry. Why not apply that design and build to the universe?
Pythagoras was a pantheistic pagan like most Greeks (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle were not), who have gods involved in everything to explain that design and complexity (others were the stuff happens people, evolutionists). So not my tribe in any way, but if numbers lead to natural laws, to natural cycles and to life, then the question still remains, who created the idea of numbers, or design, or a human with a conscious and a 70 billion neuron fired brain? Seems self evident and Einstein also appealed to the 'old one' who does not place dice.
Thanks for your reply, Ferdinand. Pythagoras is alleged to have said all is number which implies he had moved beyond God worship (polytheism or monotheism). As you point out, number is everywhere in our percived reality, and i regard that as prima face and, therefore, that an infinite consciousness arose from number.
You see it as God. I see it in a non-dualistic way i.e. as an infinite consciousness (emerging from 'number') & the source of all reality, including human consciousness (as well as everything else) therefore being part of and directly connected to this infinite consciousness.
I realise this lies in the realm of metaphysics - maybe thats because further progress in human understanding of reality must seek it in that realm. What do you think?
From my side I would say the brain and consciousness cannot arise by stuff happens, or the Darwin-Evolution cult. There is no 'science' to such a claim, in fact it is viciously anti-reality. A bacteria cannot 'evolve' into anything other than a bacteria (pleomorphism). If we consider the brain we must consider that Pythagoras' numbers are interpreted by a brain. No brain, no numbers. My cat does not consider abstract maths, Euclid, calculus nor does the cat engage in metaphysics or Plato's cave. Because we humans can do this I can deduce that I am a higher order being than the cat (the cat would obviously object to that with scorn and a raised tail). In my view a lot of metaphysics is abstract cultish theology which ignores the obvious. This is one reason why I don't like Revelations for example, or 'prophecies', which is the main don't mean a lot, disconnected from reality or concrete facts.
Yet you believe in a metaphysical God though Ferdinand!
Besides, when a cat runs after & jumps onto a fleeing mouse surely we can safely assume the speed & sequence of the necessary mathematical operations to be astonishing (just consider the programming required for a quadruped robot to do the same) - it's just that the cat does this subconsciously...
Humans do too l, largely - every time we get up and walk to the kitchen sink & turn on the tap, for example. Even for individuals hopeless at conscious-level calculus! To me this says that 'number' is completely interwoven into the human mind and into all of our percived reality.
Sure, human consciousness has reached a higher plane (judgement, aesthetics etc.) but i do argue that the root of human consciousness is still 'number'. It must do because it was the case before human consciousness ecisted.
Lets agree at least (?) that mathematicians can only discover 'number' and then encode & explore the limits of its relations....
One may come to the conclusion that The Church of Einstein was shoved down the throats of every university, especially considering that Rockefeller initially started controlling and dictating what universities teach around that time Einstein came out- seems to be evidence evidence that Einstein didn’t even write the first paper that it was another’s work - Henry Poinicare who was paid. Relativity is insanity , so much of the math and the theories on electricity , Etc are all dated and need complete revision - worse they are completely inaccurate and by controlling science and shoving the church of Einstein down everybody’s throat has caused over 100 years of damage - yet somebody much smarter and who has created so many inventions in use today - Nikola Tesla is ridiculed still-, he thought up the cold energy beam, capable of implosive or explosive results but there’s no heat. It looks like there’s heat, but it’s not , it has very bizarre effects on the area surrounding where the beam is aimed at, and it’s capable of vaporizing massive objects- It also seems that the earth is expanding at aprox 1.5 mm/YR , however universe is far 2 massive to affect earth’s rotation from 500 billion LY away. Actual age of universe is unknown, to say it’s 13.8 billion years old, based off false “Red Shift” nonsense only does more damage. Science , at least mainstream level has been so damaging as we R still digging shit up and burning it to get energy for 170 years,this is not evolved, it’s devolved & mass Insanity.
100% spot on. There is no evidence of 'endless time' - all of the calculations are based on assumptions which are contrived or wrong. Relativity in effect means there is no reality given that time has no meaning (merged with a physical plane called 'space'). As you said Einstein was a great plagiariser. He never did experiments but played with calculus. Relativity has retarded science for over 100 years. Tesla the practical engineer, is a better model to follow.
Living in made up math equations, disregarding visible & common sense observations is why mainstream science is in disarray. Especially when one sees, “Foundations” Rockefeller, Carnegie, Vanderbilt, etc., ,are responsible for shoving garbage, Billions & forcing “Students-Higher Education “ to learn junk , useless & insane “Theories” sold as evidence based facts. The Einstein Money Train - Denial of one’s observational reality is a travesty. N Tesla observed & was intrigued by lighting, Scalar waves & Energy waves in general, he even had cold plasma-1920 . Ken Shoulders (Discovered Charged Clusters) & others , derived scientific knowledge from reality. What did Einstein ever invent in the real? Relativity, is a method of control- If nothing is real then nothing matters.
My mind bloweth over, once again, Ferdinand! Many thnx! I do enjoy your writing & your rational reasoning. Please, please continue as long as is humanely possible!
And now im going to say something likely to elicite, at the very least, a deep, sorrowful sigh, or potentially, a horror-gripping scream...! Here goes...I have become more & more a Pythagorean since reading your posts!. Im more & more convinced that number underlies all of 'reality' which fundamentally must first be a conceptual thing before it can be a perceptual thing. In other words, to my way of thinking, 'materialism' looks less & less an adequate all-encompassing (unifying ?) model of reality. Irrespective of Einstotlean cult worship.
A Heliocentric truth wouldn't surprise me in the least & nor would an aether.
For me, it was the discovery of the imaginary number i, and all that followed (complex numbers, fractal geometry & quantum mechanics) that shouted loudly at my pondering mind. Why? Because of course imaginary numbers aren't conceptually possible without a conscious awareness. The "imaginary number" was of course discovered- not invented (even by a mathmagician) - it is clearly interwoven in our preceived material reality and yet, by definition, it is not a material thing or the product of a material thing as it must have existed prior to our percieved material universe.
Long winded, sorry! If you disagree i would be really grateful to hear your reasoning.
Hi Andrew, good comment thanks. To be honest you and Pythagoras could be right about numbers, though let's remember he was chased out of Sicily when his cult devolved to the occult (same happened to Plato). There is something about the creation of what we see around us, that points to numbers. The great Cathedrals are geometrically symmetrical and mathematically perfect in construction and form, yet the masters that built them had no need of 'the science' just 3d geometry. Why not apply that design and build to the universe?
Pythagoras was a pantheistic pagan like most Greeks (Socrates, Plato, Aristotle were not), who have gods involved in everything to explain that design and complexity (others were the stuff happens people, evolutionists). So not my tribe in any way, but if numbers lead to natural laws, to natural cycles and to life, then the question still remains, who created the idea of numbers, or design, or a human with a conscious and a 70 billion neuron fired brain? Seems self evident and Einstein also appealed to the 'old one' who does not place dice.
Thanks for your reply, Ferdinand. Pythagoras is alleged to have said all is number which implies he had moved beyond God worship (polytheism or monotheism). As you point out, number is everywhere in our percived reality, and i regard that as prima face and, therefore, that an infinite consciousness arose from number.
You see it as God. I see it in a non-dualistic way i.e. as an infinite consciousness (emerging from 'number') & the source of all reality, including human consciousness (as well as everything else) therefore being part of and directly connected to this infinite consciousness.
I realise this lies in the realm of metaphysics - maybe thats because further progress in human understanding of reality must seek it in that realm. What do you think?
From my side I would say the brain and consciousness cannot arise by stuff happens, or the Darwin-Evolution cult. There is no 'science' to such a claim, in fact it is viciously anti-reality. A bacteria cannot 'evolve' into anything other than a bacteria (pleomorphism). If we consider the brain we must consider that Pythagoras' numbers are interpreted by a brain. No brain, no numbers. My cat does not consider abstract maths, Euclid, calculus nor does the cat engage in metaphysics or Plato's cave. Because we humans can do this I can deduce that I am a higher order being than the cat (the cat would obviously object to that with scorn and a raised tail). In my view a lot of metaphysics is abstract cultish theology which ignores the obvious. This is one reason why I don't like Revelations for example, or 'prophecies', which is the main don't mean a lot, disconnected from reality or concrete facts.
Yet you believe in a metaphysical God though Ferdinand!
Besides, when a cat runs after & jumps onto a fleeing mouse surely we can safely assume the speed & sequence of the necessary mathematical operations to be astonishing (just consider the programming required for a quadruped robot to do the same) - it's just that the cat does this subconsciously...
Humans do too l, largely - every time we get up and walk to the kitchen sink & turn on the tap, for example. Even for individuals hopeless at conscious-level calculus! To me this says that 'number' is completely interwoven into the human mind and into all of our percived reality.
Sure, human consciousness has reached a higher plane (judgement, aesthetics etc.) but i do argue that the root of human consciousness is still 'number'. It must do because it was the case before human consciousness ecisted.
Lets agree at least (?) that mathematicians can only discover 'number' and then encode & explore the limits of its relations....
I believe in reality not just metaphysics.
What created the cat? Bacteria?
I understood that you believe in a God who created our reality...? If that's not metaphysics then what is?
One may come to the conclusion that The Church of Einstein was shoved down the throats of every university, especially considering that Rockefeller initially started controlling and dictating what universities teach around that time Einstein came out- seems to be evidence evidence that Einstein didn’t even write the first paper that it was another’s work - Henry Poinicare who was paid. Relativity is insanity , so much of the math and the theories on electricity , Etc are all dated and need complete revision - worse they are completely inaccurate and by controlling science and shoving the church of Einstein down everybody’s throat has caused over 100 years of damage - yet somebody much smarter and who has created so many inventions in use today - Nikola Tesla is ridiculed still-, he thought up the cold energy beam, capable of implosive or explosive results but there’s no heat. It looks like there’s heat, but it’s not , it has very bizarre effects on the area surrounding where the beam is aimed at, and it’s capable of vaporizing massive objects- It also seems that the earth is expanding at aprox 1.5 mm/YR , however universe is far 2 massive to affect earth’s rotation from 500 billion LY away. Actual age of universe is unknown, to say it’s 13.8 billion years old, based off false “Red Shift” nonsense only does more damage. Science , at least mainstream level has been so damaging as we R still digging shit up and burning it to get energy for 170 years,this is not evolved, it’s devolved & mass Insanity.
100% spot on. There is no evidence of 'endless time' - all of the calculations are based on assumptions which are contrived or wrong. Relativity in effect means there is no reality given that time has no meaning (merged with a physical plane called 'space'). As you said Einstein was a great plagiariser. He never did experiments but played with calculus. Relativity has retarded science for over 100 years. Tesla the practical engineer, is a better model to follow.
Living in made up math equations, disregarding visible & common sense observations is why mainstream science is in disarray. Especially when one sees, “Foundations” Rockefeller, Carnegie, Vanderbilt, etc., ,are responsible for shoving garbage, Billions & forcing “Students-Higher Education “ to learn junk , useless & insane “Theories” sold as evidence based facts. The Einstein Money Train - Denial of one’s observational reality is a travesty. N Tesla observed & was intrigued by lighting, Scalar waves & Energy waves in general, he even had cold plasma-1920 . Ken Shoulders (Discovered Charged Clusters) & others , derived scientific knowledge from reality. What did Einstein ever invent in the real? Relativity, is a method of control- If nothing is real then nothing matters.
Spot on. Relativity adds not value, nor is it remotely related to anything 'scientific' or practical.