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What do you envision as the structure of the Earth and other solar planets, and the motions of the bodies of the solar systems? How does this relate to the structure of the observable universe?

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Fascinating stuff. What's interesting to me about this is how vehement the heliocentists are. Why do they care so much? This suggests ulterior motives. Like you said, it's possible that the earth moves, it can't be definitely proven and might not even be a meaningful distinction since there is no 3rd fixed point of reference outside the universe. So normally a true scientist would admit that, even though he might believe the balance of evidence leans towards heliocentrism. If we were discussing, say, whether the center of the earth is cold or hot, there would probably not be some kind of pogram against people who have non-mainstream views, since it's mainly an academic question. Maybe, you could teach the "standard" view only in undergraduate courses, and then study arguments for the other side at the graduate level, or something like that, if you're concerned about misleading non-specialists. But, of course, the reason geocentrism is different is because it supports Genesis and traditional Christian cosmology. Whereas heliocentrism is foundational to the Enlightenment narrative, second only to evolution probably. That's why it's an absolute non-negotiable with moralistic undertones, instead of a normal scientific theory. It would be interesting to ask some ardent heliocentrists the question, "if geocentrism was definitively proven or at least shown to be much more likely than heliocentrism, would you change your beliefs?" and see what they say.

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