This is often a test of a person's world-views, their philosophy, which they religiously hold, and how that informs their belief in, and their reaction to, authority, 'experts' and 'The Science'.
Extraordinarily well-done article. It's absorbed half my day (which is usually a great indicator of depth and quality).
I was unaware of the murder of Thomas Baron shortly after the murder of Gus Grissom and colleagues, and had also never heard the recording of that final horrific moment. (Or that they'd first tried to drown him).
These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless, and will murder anyone that comes too close to exposing them; from Heads of State, to their own staff, to bright inquisitive young men on YT like 23 year old Matthew North who was found in his car with a bullet through his temple, and the internet scrubbed of his 5 years of work.
It's not difficult to understand lies like Covid, when you have even bigger lies like this one as their predecessors.
Thanks Sez. Yes a long post unfortunately, hard to break it apart given that all the pieces fit together in some way. Baron was likely murdered in his house (along with his family), put in a car, and planted on the railway line. Apparently the train that hit him (central Florida) was supposedly linked to the government. Hard to imagine that his very detailed description of issues with the command module were fixed in 2 years. But that is their story.
As you said:
"These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless"
Indeed. Trump talks about 'bad people'. He now has a chance to expose them. Let's hope he does.
To sum up: common sense = logic. Most people don’t use it, tho they possess it.
Appealing to Authority Fallacies are based on tribal affiliation and emotion.
It’s just too stressful for many to consider that, logically, those who rise to the highest levels are very good at gaining status and maintaining status regardless of - and often at great cost to - the truth.
Yes, Bill Clinton's carpenter had it right. Common sense, not degrees, not authority. Even the carpenter's 'lying eyes' saw through the moon charade. But not Bill.
During the Corona plandemic. I was doing some work on the house and we had a carpenter here (it was during the lockdowns etc). None of us were diapered and he knew I was not stabbed (given that I freely told everyone who had ears). So I asked the carpenter about the Corona theatre.
He laughed and said, that whatever the TV and government were saying was nothing but lies. They were 'making a huge thing, out of nothing, for their own purposes'. He referenced his seething anger at being cut off from his mother and the human costs of the lockdowns, including the effects on his young daughter's mental health - 'over nothing' he said.
Sounds like Clinton's carpenter - high IQs based on working in reality. There is a great degree of difference in common sense and utility between people who work and create with their hands, and the laptop class.
It's a good read and he has the right attitude, but his book has many bad or sloppy arguments which can be easily debunked. Your average 'true believer' only needs to debunk one thing and they will feel justified dismissing the whole topic so I wouldn't recommend his book as a tool to 'wake people up' on Apollo.
His book (and interviews) on the contrived hippie/ youth movement, the music biz and Laurel canyon is much better. In fact it's a must read.
Oh, ye of little faith 😳 Billions of Hollywood and DOD dollars have gone into the "Impossible isn't American" narrative and you've gone and burst the bubble with very unpleasant facts. Next you'll be telling us that the same guy behind the anthrax "terrorist attacks" ran the company that subsequently mandated US military "anthrax vaccines", was behind Tamiflu, financed Reagan to get Aspartam FDA approval after it was found to be highly toxic under Carter, made millions through USAID in Irak and then some... 😈
Indeed. Imagine conjuring up the 'moon landings' to partake of say U$200 billion in funding. Reminds one of the Corona...all those contracts, PPE, stabbinations, supplies, studies...all these piglets across the G20 and large corporations snorting and gobbling from the collective trough of U$ 1 Trillion or more on offer during the plandemic...perish the thought of profits, evil and sin on a leviathan scale :)
Good list. I have started a series of articles on the hard problems behind a manned moon landing, doing deep dives into each. My background is engineering.
The first covers how vacuum damages photographic film:
Thanks for the links. This is great information. Totally agree on both. Radiation would destroy the film notwithstanding all the other issues with the photos and film. The Hasselblads were never tested for 250F and high radiation (in fact no radiation readings are available, lost of course). And yes heat shields and re-entry...no computer, no guidance system, no pre-testing of the 'ablative shields', at least nothing in the public domain (where, how, the results etc?) ....bouncing through 12 layers of atmosphere at 24000 mph....hmmm. Yes something is not right. I would put my money on the C35 military plane dropping the actornauts from about 10.000 feet.... :)
The Kubrick admission video is fake, that guy is an actor. You actually link to a video in this post that proves this. The video is under your "here at minute 17:30" link. Here's the relevant part: https://youtu.be/yDyJe1nmSOM?t=2200
The ‘astronauts’ looked utterly devastated not confused. If they’d been to the moon & back they’d be thoroughly elated to be back & would be falling over each other to share their experience. But they could hardly form a coherent sentence between them & kept looking at each other like kids being questioned by the headmaster. They never went, nobody ever went & nobody will ever go to the moon. It’s a light not a rock. Read your Bible not NASA BS 🧐
Absolutely. 'Did you see stars'? The fake news throws an easy softball and the smartest guys evah, can't hit it. 'Yes, no, maybe, can't remember'....They voyaged 500 K miles and can't tell us about radiation, the 250F sunlight, the van allen belts, the stars, the chemical composition of the 1/6 (vs earth) atmosphere, the tremendous thrill of going 24000 mph in a fat bottomed cone through 12 layers of atmosphere with no controls, directly (of course) on target in the little lake called the Pacific.....
Now they are dropping 'probes' on the moon (supposedly) but none that can show the jeeps or golf clubs.
When people get mad with me about my denial of moon landings I always ask them what changes if I believe suddenly? Does my mortgage get waved off? I don't have to pay taxes anymore? Or maybe I just get my salary without actual work? Moonlandings/ mars expeditions and other crap are fairytales to let the people wonder off and forget about the daily struggles.
Indeed. 'Why' is a good question. It is a colossal investment for what purpose? Cui bono besides all the pigs in the trough? What is the ROI - costs vs benefits? Why is NASA a group of climate clowns predicting apocalypse from plant food, but can't tell us how the comms worked on Apollo 11? What is on dead cold Mars? How would you survive?
We have satellites in high orbit, supposedly probes have circumnavigated the moon many times. Point a satellite and a high powered scope at the moon from either a sat and probe and just show the jeeps they left! Apparently they folded up and were easy to carry but were left on the moon. Or were they left somewhere on Earth?
Yes spot on. Bond the moon 'denier' :) The jeeps have always been a mystery. I could never figure out why they would push that - opens up all sorts of questions and was largely unnecessary to push their script.
This is a very impressive, comprehensive and convincing article and compilation of very much material, thank you. I just noticed that close to the end of the article the speed of light is stated as 186,000 miles per hour needs - I just checked this because it did not seem right & the units should be miles per second.
Haven't finished the article yet, but just noticed an error in your argument against sustained G force. G force is a measure of acceleration, not speed (if I recall my high school physics correctly). So, while 17,000+ mph is an incredible speed, once it is reached and maintained, there is zero G force on occupants of the craft. How quickly the speed was reach may still be a valid point, but traveling that fast for 20 hours is of no consequence.
Yes, I thought that also. It is the acceleration that counts and not the absolute speed. But if I remember correctly it seems like the acceleration forces would still have been considerable to reach that terminal velocity in a relatively short period of time.
They are limp however after Apollo 11. So that narrative has a problem. They moved because of external forces - likely a fan. There is no wind to make them move. Supposedly no atmosphere.
Mythbusters - sorry that is 100% narrative and fake. As the post says, people watch some highly paid debunking nonsense and then retreat back to pink pony world.
They have been busted and dusted.
Same as the hammer and feather fraud which is edited film.
Regarding the hammer and feather, by which I suppose you mean a hammer and feather falling at the same rate in a vacuum, that's also a very easy experiment to replicate. I've seen it done a few times in videos. But even just at a logical level, it makes sense. We can do a thought experiment: Suppose two people of the same mass are falling in a vacuum at the same speed, and now they reach out to each other and hold hands to form a single body, so to speak. Does that single body suddenly start accelerating faster because it has twice the mass? Why would it?
It's not a difficult experiment to put a flag in a vacuum chamber and shake it about. It makes total sense to me, in terms of physics, for a flag to keep moving in a vacuum due to momentum.
Do you have some evidence for a limp flag post Apollo 11? The flag I saw had a crossbar. Are you saying they got rid of that?
As I pointed out to numerous true believers, it is very simple to validate or disprove the alleged moon landings from your home town with cheap equipment.
Here's how:
Take the cheapest astrophotography setup you can buy on Craigslist. Do not pay more than 150-, that would be cheating.
Using this gear, take a photo of a terrestrial target that is about the same size as the lunar module and 7-9 miles away, the same distance as the China/India/US lunar orbiters that photographed the alleged landing sites and 'proved' that we went to the moon. A couple of these photos are in the article but there are more.
When you are done, compare the image quality of your cheap Craigslist setup with the multimillion dollar imaging systems on the orbiters and their photos of the moon landing sites with no atmospheric distortion.
Without fail, when asked to do this simple test, the true believers will spew lengthy ad hominem attacks, but never produce the pictures.
Good post, thanks. Yes, I have seen this performed by people (their results I should say). Vacuum analysis of the Apollo-photos also reveal obvious flaws and compositions. Many of the photos are crude composites, not singular images. I still don't understand why we can't see the 'jeeps' there, surely they are large enough to identify with our powerful scopes and probes.
Thanks Dave. Glad you found it useful. Will update it this year. The debunkers usually lose their minds over the photos. More basic things should be investigated. For example, where are all the 'ablative heat shield' tests in a lab, but also in the upper atmosphere? As an actor-astro-naut I would have some self interest in knowing everything about such shields and if they would actually be fit for a re-entry. Etc.
And "NASA" is claiming 12 "astronauts" walked on the moon, should be plenty of data, video etc to prove these further trips, perhaps they now have video of the trip through Van allen belt, that would be interesting 😀
This is great information. I found this out in 2015 and began to question everything. The film “A funny thing happened on the way to the moon” opened my eyes to this lie and eventually lead me to understand that the globe spinning earth rhetoric is all lies too! It’s all theater and we choose to believe the world or the word, as in GOD’s Word! They are always going to be in complete contradiction to each other, hence why Satan has dominion over the earth. God uses him for HIS Purpose to test men’s hearts. Not for God to decide who is for Him but to show us how wicked we are and in need of a Savior to Redeem us of our wickedness. It’s the eternal heart issue! 😇🙏😇
Thanks glad you found it useful. Yes that is an excellent film by Sibrel. You can start anywhere in the apollo program and focus on any single area. There are more questions than answers. The Russians were also in on the fraud. One clue is that none of the apollo spacecraft could be tracked during their journey’s. This is simply unimaginable if such discoveries were for the ‘benefit of all men’. No, they were for the benefit of those making money, and for those who wanted to prove tech superiority over the Russians. I still don’t understand why NASA issues snorkels to the ‘astronauts’. Might be for their zero-gravity pool here on Earth…..
Yes these snorkels were for the pools. All “space” is aether and water. Psalm 148:4 tells us we have waters above. Genesis is thoroughly replete with the design of our earth. We must take GOD at His Word . Romans 3:4–Let God be true and every man a Liar. Sadly even pastors won’t teach cosmology as it is written.
I have much to learn on this topic but I’ve been studying Biblical cosmology for 4 years , beginning when I discovered we live on a flat and level plain, zero rotation and the sun and moon clearly move above our stationary earth! The lack of evidence for curvature and about 10 other factors that disprove “science” helped me to this truth.
When we unlearn the lies and see the PURE TRUTH, as it is written, you begin to understand the motivations of this satanic agenda and you can be certain of the veracity of the BIBLE.
This is not a test of a person's world view but a test of their knowledge of at least some science. There is a lot of common sense science out there that painstakingly debunks everyone of these claims, often with common sense. For instance, in an argument with someone on how they packed the parachute, they couldn't do it, I went and found papers on months of research learning how to pack the parachute. It was made of thin kevlar, with kevlar cables. Engineers had a full scale model of the module with the compartment the parachute was to be in. They spent months folding it in different ways. They finally figured out vacuum packing. And so made the parachute to fit. They also tested it's release multiple times.
Here's the point: they were paid and tasked to do it and had the data on paper from actual real time testing. So the question has to then be were they tasked with a project that was never going to be used? The data is real. The test reports are real. And they succeeded. So, was all that money and time just for the hoax when it would be far easier to fire a rocket into low orbit, drop the capsule with more than enough room for a parachute not needing any real controls? That is a ridiculous proposition.
And there is far more actual data then that. Individual teams worked on various aspects of the entire mission, tasked with the various components of the mission. Were they all paid to produce actual real field and real world working components from the materials used to the code just for it all to be not used? And not one of them realised this was all bogus, it could never work?
BTW, the spacesuits were purpose built with certain layered materials for the high temperatures and had a cooling system. The astronauts wore the suits inside and outside the module.
In reality, faked moon landing comes from pessimism, cynicism, not science. It's single focus is that humans in no way could achieve such a feat. That we are worthless and incapable. It does not come from science.
Your input is a worldview and philosophy. Scientism, or the belief that what you are told is 'science' and whatever 'science' says is correct.
A hoax is a hoax, it does not entail that humans are worthless.
The Rona plandemic was a hoax. It does not mean that diseases don't exist.
As you said shooting a rocket a few hundred miles up is easier and that is what they did.
You claim the data exists - it doesn't. All the original data was 'lost'.
Where are the radiation readings? They don't exist.
You can go through every single step of this program from 1962. It is pretty clear that neither the tech nor the comms existed to journey 500K miles and back through our atmosphere at 24.000 mph with >6 G force.
Of course I shall not convince you of anything. And neither shall you convince me. Which is why I focussed on the psychology. I will say though that I do find the recent Indian orbiter pictures of the actual lander in high detail interesting. Of course, than the response is deep fake deep fake.
Back to psychology. That the landings actually happened is rooted in the conception that man can do most anything and that this was a great achievement. Optimism. Moon hoax is rooted in pessimism. That man can barely do anything and that it’s much easier and infinitely preferable to simply hoax anything.
If you wish, you can simply reside in your position that no, it’s this and not that. I am merely pointing out an angle. It is indeed an uncomfortable one, for the hoax aspect describes mankind as a low IQ asshole who just tricks everyone. The challenge is this: try and describe, if, say the moon landing was real and actual, try to describe that potential reality in any way negative, pessimistic or cynical.
And therein you will find that it can’t be done. There is no way to paint the landing, if actual and real, in a negative light. About the best one can do is to say “well it wasn’t necessary.”
The fraud is pretty clear. Imagery in Google Earth (Moon) contradicts the Apollo photographic record. Perspective views shown in some panoramas and the simulations generated by the software show discrepancies on every single mission - something the film makers could not have known in 1969. Lunar features like surface anomalies and foreground hills differ. Google Earth-moon reveals the stars are easily visible. Univ of Athens in Greece did some detailed analysis of the photos, found most were composite. No one was bright enought to plant a telescope yet they played golf. The star canopy was blacked out for obvious reasons.
Both the Moon and Mars, being somewhat distant, have specific times for signals to arrive at earth. Pretty good test. As for photography, Indians photographed the lunar lander, the original.
As far as armchair shall we say astronomers, those aren’t who I would depend on for any proof. Nor the so-called professionals. What I would depend on is the milliards of data points, far more than hoaxer data, pointing to a very real moon landing and the rovers on Mars.
Always look at the data. Compare, evaluate. If the greater amount of data pointed to a hoax, then hoax it might be. I tend otwards mights and maybes, data points to, etc.
The photos are just 1 part of a 100 problems the narrative has. By themselves they prove nothing. When aligned with the 100 other problems a pattern emerges....
The Apollo narrative is that the Apollo 11 crew allegedly were on the lunar surface for just a couple of hours – not enough time to register that the Earth remains in the same location in the sky while the positions of the stars slowly change behind it. This is false.
First, they certainly would have seen the brilliance of the lunar sky. As would the crews of other missions, especially Apollos 15 to 17, scheduled to stay on the lunar surface for much longer – over six hours, three times each. Had they really been there, these longer missions would also have noticed that the stars moved across the sky and some of the best-known constellations would have passed behind the Earth. There is no record of this. It was not difficult to plant a telescope and observe which a normal person would have done.
Second, there are Earth bound demonstrations of photos and details in bright sunlight. The lessons are unambiguous. First, in order to see the stars, the Sun shouldn’t be in direct line of sight or in the field of vision – this would be easy to achieve. Secondly, an astronaut would need to block any reflections from the moon's reflective surface by moving his arms in front of his chest or closer to the visor. Not difficult. Yet in their images there are shadows all over the place - how is this possible on a reflective surface, unless artificial lighting is used.
Third, the fact that nothing about the lunar sky was ever discussed strongly suggests that none of the astronauts have ever spent any time on the lunar surface for real. None of them can remember any details. This is simply abnormal. It tells the farmer they were never there.
James Irwin, the pilot of Apollo 15, in his book (J. Irwin, 1973, p.100) epitomises the problem: “It was a beautiful sight as I looked out there: absolutely black, but there was so much of the sun’s reflected light on the vehicle that I couldn’t see the stars. It was scary and eerie out in that dark abyss of space.”
Sure James if you say so. Irwin's comment was describing his view out of the craft window on its way back to from the Moon. Yet he has nothing to say about the view from the surface. It screams out fraud.
Extraordinarily well-done article. It's absorbed half my day (which is usually a great indicator of depth and quality).
I was unaware of the murder of Thomas Baron shortly after the murder of Gus Grissom and colleagues, and had also never heard the recording of that final horrific moment. (Or that they'd first tried to drown him).
These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless, and will murder anyone that comes too close to exposing them; from Heads of State, to their own staff, to bright inquisitive young men on YT like 23 year old Matthew North who was found in his car with a bullet through his temple, and the internet scrubbed of his 5 years of work.
It's not difficult to understand lies like Covid, when you have even bigger lies like this one as their predecessors.
Great work.
Thanks Sez. Yes a long post unfortunately, hard to break it apart given that all the pieces fit together in some way. Baron was likely murdered in his house (along with his family), put in a car, and planted on the railway line. Apparently the train that hit him (central Florida) was supposedly linked to the government. Hard to imagine that his very detailed description of issues with the command module were fixed in 2 years. But that is their story.
As you said:
"These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless"
Indeed. Trump talks about 'bad people'. He now has a chance to expose them. Let's hope he does.
I had no idea about Joe Rogan.. but I believe it now! Thank you for the name drop RIP
https://www.brighteon.com/350951dc-29d2-4873-9448-94c52f69be54
To sum up: common sense = logic. Most people don’t use it, tho they possess it.
Appealing to Authority Fallacies are based on tribal affiliation and emotion.
It’s just too stressful for many to consider that, logically, those who rise to the highest levels are very good at gaining status and maintaining status regardless of - and often at great cost to - the truth.
Yes, Bill Clinton's carpenter had it right. Common sense, not degrees, not authority. Even the carpenter's 'lying eyes' saw through the moon charade. But not Bill.
During the Corona plandemic. I was doing some work on the house and we had a carpenter here (it was during the lockdowns etc). None of us were diapered and he knew I was not stabbed (given that I freely told everyone who had ears). So I asked the carpenter about the Corona theatre.
He laughed and said, that whatever the TV and government were saying was nothing but lies. They were 'making a huge thing, out of nothing, for their own purposes'. He referenced his seething anger at being cut off from his mother and the human costs of the lockdowns, including the effects on his young daughter's mental health - 'over nothing' he said.
Sounds like Clinton's carpenter - high IQs based on working in reality. There is a great degree of difference in common sense and utility between people who work and create with their hands, and the laptop class.
Dave McGowan’s series on the moon landings is worth a read, very funny and insightful:
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/
This is excellent, thanks for sharing. Very good insights.
It's a good read and he has the right attitude, but his book has many bad or sloppy arguments which can be easily debunked. Your average 'true believer' only needs to debunk one thing and they will feel justified dismissing the whole topic so I wouldn't recommend his book as a tool to 'wake people up' on Apollo.
His book (and interviews) on the contrived hippie/ youth movement, the music biz and Laurel canyon is much better. In fact it's a must read.
https://rumble.com/v60ykdw-how-we-faked-the-moon-landing-with-bart-sibrel-candace-ep-124.html
Oh, ye of little faith 😳 Billions of Hollywood and DOD dollars have gone into the "Impossible isn't American" narrative and you've gone and burst the bubble with very unpleasant facts. Next you'll be telling us that the same guy behind the anthrax "terrorist attacks" ran the company that subsequently mandated US military "anthrax vaccines", was behind Tamiflu, financed Reagan to get Aspartam FDA approval after it was found to be highly toxic under Carter, made millions through USAID in Irak and then some... 😈
Indeed. Imagine conjuring up the 'moon landings' to partake of say U$200 billion in funding. Reminds one of the Corona...all those contracts, PPE, stabbinations, supplies, studies...all these piglets across the G20 and large corporations snorting and gobbling from the collective trough of U$ 1 Trillion or more on offer during the plandemic...perish the thought of profits, evil and sin on a leviathan scale :)
Good list. I have started a series of articles on the hard problems behind a manned moon landing, doing deep dives into each. My background is engineering.
The first covers how vacuum damages photographic film:
https://erikbuilds.substack.com/p/the-hard-problems-behind-why-the?r=ih3h3
The second covers the design and viability of the heat shields for re-entry:
https://erikbuilds.substack.com/p/the-hard-problems-behind-why-the-5b0?r=ih3h3
Thanks for the links. This is great information. Totally agree on both. Radiation would destroy the film notwithstanding all the other issues with the photos and film. The Hasselblads were never tested for 250F and high radiation (in fact no radiation readings are available, lost of course). And yes heat shields and re-entry...no computer, no guidance system, no pre-testing of the 'ablative shields', at least nothing in the public domain (where, how, the results etc?) ....bouncing through 12 layers of atmosphere at 24000 mph....hmmm. Yes something is not right. I would put my money on the C35 military plane dropping the actornauts from about 10.000 feet.... :)
The Kubrick admission video is fake, that guy is an actor. You actually link to a video in this post that proves this. The video is under your "here at minute 17:30" link. Here's the relevant part: https://youtu.be/yDyJe1nmSOM?t=2200
Thanks for that, will update with the same.
The ‘astronauts’ looked utterly devastated not confused. If they’d been to the moon & back they’d be thoroughly elated to be back & would be falling over each other to share their experience. But they could hardly form a coherent sentence between them & kept looking at each other like kids being questioned by the headmaster. They never went, nobody ever went & nobody will ever go to the moon. It’s a light not a rock. Read your Bible not NASA BS 🧐
Absolutely. 'Did you see stars'? The fake news throws an easy softball and the smartest guys evah, can't hit it. 'Yes, no, maybe, can't remember'....They voyaged 500 K miles and can't tell us about radiation, the 250F sunlight, the van allen belts, the stars, the chemical composition of the 1/6 (vs earth) atmosphere, the tremendous thrill of going 24000 mph in a fat bottomed cone through 12 layers of atmosphere with no controls, directly (of course) on target in the little lake called the Pacific.....
Now they are dropping 'probes' on the moon (supposedly) but none that can show the jeeps or golf clubs.
When people get mad with me about my denial of moon landings I always ask them what changes if I believe suddenly? Does my mortgage get waved off? I don't have to pay taxes anymore? Or maybe I just get my salary without actual work? Moonlandings/ mars expeditions and other crap are fairytales to let the people wonder off and forget about the daily struggles.
Indeed. 'Why' is a good question. It is a colossal investment for what purpose? Cui bono besides all the pigs in the trough? What is the ROI - costs vs benefits? Why is NASA a group of climate clowns predicting apocalypse from plant food, but can't tell us how the comms worked on Apollo 11? What is on dead cold Mars? How would you survive?
We have satellites in high orbit, supposedly probes have circumnavigated the moon many times. Point a satellite and a high powered scope at the moon from either a sat and probe and just show the jeeps they left! Apparently they folded up and were easy to carry but were left on the moon. Or were they left somewhere on Earth?
If I remember rightly, the rovers played a starring role in James Bond's Moonraker 😁
Yes spot on. Bond the moon 'denier' :) The jeeps have always been a mystery. I could never figure out why they would push that - opens up all sorts of questions and was largely unnecessary to push their script.
This is a very impressive, comprehensive and convincing article and compilation of very much material, thank you. I just noticed that close to the end of the article the speed of light is stated as 186,000 miles per hour needs - I just checked this because it did not seem right & the units should be miles per second.
Thanks Howard for the catch, correct. It is per second, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that out.
Haven't finished the article yet, but just noticed an error in your argument against sustained G force. G force is a measure of acceleration, not speed (if I recall my high school physics correctly). So, while 17,000+ mph is an incredible speed, once it is reached and maintained, there is zero G force on occupants of the craft. How quickly the speed was reach may still be a valid point, but traveling that fast for 20 hours is of no consequence.
Yes, I thought that also. It is the acceleration that counts and not the absolute speed. But if I remember correctly it seems like the acceleration forces would still have been considerable to reach that terminal velocity in a relatively short period of time.
You are correct velocity of the source is important (Relativity denies this).
Sorry, 10 days, not 20 hours (re Apollo 9)
A flag will "flutter" in a vacuum. I've seen this demonstrated twice, on Myth Busters and on The Action Lab channel on YouTube.
They are limp however after Apollo 11. So that narrative has a problem. They moved because of external forces - likely a fan. There is no wind to make them move. Supposedly no atmosphere.
Mythbusters - sorry that is 100% narrative and fake. As the post says, people watch some highly paid debunking nonsense and then retreat back to pink pony world.
They have been busted and dusted.
Same as the hammer and feather fraud which is edited film.
Regarding the hammer and feather, by which I suppose you mean a hammer and feather falling at the same rate in a vacuum, that's also a very easy experiment to replicate. I've seen it done a few times in videos. But even just at a logical level, it makes sense. We can do a thought experiment: Suppose two people of the same mass are falling in a vacuum at the same speed, and now they reach out to each other and hold hands to form a single body, so to speak. Does that single body suddenly start accelerating faster because it has twice the mass? Why would it?
It's not a difficult experiment to put a flag in a vacuum chamber and shake it about. It makes total sense to me, in terms of physics, for a flag to keep moving in a vacuum due to momentum.
Do you have some evidence for a limp flag post Apollo 11? The flag I saw had a crossbar. Are you saying they got rid of that?
https://www.aulis.com/
This site has most of your arguments, and goes into more detail on a lot of them.
A decade ago, the arguments on the lack of background parallax in all of the photographs are what clued me in to the beginning of the problems.
https://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
Thanks, a great resource.
As I pointed out to numerous true believers, it is very simple to validate or disprove the alleged moon landings from your home town with cheap equipment.
Here's how:
Take the cheapest astrophotography setup you can buy on Craigslist. Do not pay more than 150-, that would be cheating.
Using this gear, take a photo of a terrestrial target that is about the same size as the lunar module and 7-9 miles away, the same distance as the China/India/US lunar orbiters that photographed the alleged landing sites and 'proved' that we went to the moon. A couple of these photos are in the article but there are more.
When you are done, compare the image quality of your cheap Craigslist setup with the multimillion dollar imaging systems on the orbiters and their photos of the moon landing sites with no atmospheric distortion.
Without fail, when asked to do this simple test, the true believers will spew lengthy ad hominem attacks, but never produce the pictures.
Good post, thanks. Yes, I have seen this performed by people (their results I should say). Vacuum analysis of the Apollo-photos also reveal obvious flaws and compositions. Many of the photos are crude composites, not singular images. I still don't understand why we can't see the 'jeeps' there, surely they are large enough to identify with our powerful scopes and probes.
Thanks for the work put into exposing the fraudulent moon landing, waiting for the debunkers to reply with evidence. 😉
Thanks Dave. Glad you found it useful. Will update it this year. The debunkers usually lose their minds over the photos. More basic things should be investigated. For example, where are all the 'ablative heat shield' tests in a lab, but also in the upper atmosphere? As an actor-astro-naut I would have some self interest in knowing everything about such shields and if they would actually be fit for a re-entry. Etc.
And "NASA" is claiming 12 "astronauts" walked on the moon, should be plenty of data, video etc to prove these further trips, perhaps they now have video of the trip through Van allen belt, that would be interesting 😀
This is great information. I found this out in 2015 and began to question everything. The film “A funny thing happened on the way to the moon” opened my eyes to this lie and eventually lead me to understand that the globe spinning earth rhetoric is all lies too! It’s all theater and we choose to believe the world or the word, as in GOD’s Word! They are always going to be in complete contradiction to each other, hence why Satan has dominion over the earth. God uses him for HIS Purpose to test men’s hearts. Not for God to decide who is for Him but to show us how wicked we are and in need of a Savior to Redeem us of our wickedness. It’s the eternal heart issue! 😇🙏😇
Thanks glad you found it useful. Yes that is an excellent film by Sibrel. You can start anywhere in the apollo program and focus on any single area. There are more questions than answers. The Russians were also in on the fraud. One clue is that none of the apollo spacecraft could be tracked during their journey’s. This is simply unimaginable if such discoveries were for the ‘benefit of all men’. No, they were for the benefit of those making money, and for those who wanted to prove tech superiority over the Russians. I still don’t understand why NASA issues snorkels to the ‘astronauts’. Might be for their zero-gravity pool here on Earth…..
Yes these snorkels were for the pools. All “space” is aether and water. Psalm 148:4 tells us we have waters above. Genesis is thoroughly replete with the design of our earth. We must take GOD at His Word . Romans 3:4–Let God be true and every man a Liar. Sadly even pastors won’t teach cosmology as it is written.
I have much to learn on this topic but I’ve been studying Biblical cosmology for 4 years , beginning when I discovered we live on a flat and level plain, zero rotation and the sun and moon clearly move above our stationary earth! The lack of evidence for curvature and about 10 other factors that disprove “science” helped me to this truth.
When we unlearn the lies and see the PURE TRUTH, as it is written, you begin to understand the motivations of this satanic agenda and you can be certain of the veracity of the BIBLE.
This is not a test of a person's world view but a test of their knowledge of at least some science. There is a lot of common sense science out there that painstakingly debunks everyone of these claims, often with common sense. For instance, in an argument with someone on how they packed the parachute, they couldn't do it, I went and found papers on months of research learning how to pack the parachute. It was made of thin kevlar, with kevlar cables. Engineers had a full scale model of the module with the compartment the parachute was to be in. They spent months folding it in different ways. They finally figured out vacuum packing. And so made the parachute to fit. They also tested it's release multiple times.
Here's the point: they were paid and tasked to do it and had the data on paper from actual real time testing. So the question has to then be were they tasked with a project that was never going to be used? The data is real. The test reports are real. And they succeeded. So, was all that money and time just for the hoax when it would be far easier to fire a rocket into low orbit, drop the capsule with more than enough room for a parachute not needing any real controls? That is a ridiculous proposition.
And there is far more actual data then that. Individual teams worked on various aspects of the entire mission, tasked with the various components of the mission. Were they all paid to produce actual real field and real world working components from the materials used to the code just for it all to be not used? And not one of them realised this was all bogus, it could never work?
BTW, the spacesuits were purpose built with certain layered materials for the high temperatures and had a cooling system. The astronauts wore the suits inside and outside the module.
In reality, faked moon landing comes from pessimism, cynicism, not science. It's single focus is that humans in no way could achieve such a feat. That we are worthless and incapable. It does not come from science.
Your input is a worldview and philosophy. Scientism, or the belief that what you are told is 'science' and whatever 'science' says is correct.
A hoax is a hoax, it does not entail that humans are worthless.
The Rona plandemic was a hoax. It does not mean that diseases don't exist.
As you said shooting a rocket a few hundred miles up is easier and that is what they did.
You claim the data exists - it doesn't. All the original data was 'lost'.
Where are the radiation readings? They don't exist.
You can go through every single step of this program from 1962. It is pretty clear that neither the tech nor the comms existed to journey 500K miles and back through our atmosphere at 24.000 mph with >6 G force.
Money laundering is a more likely motivation.
Of course I shall not convince you of anything. And neither shall you convince me. Which is why I focussed on the psychology. I will say though that I do find the recent Indian orbiter pictures of the actual lander in high detail interesting. Of course, than the response is deep fake deep fake.
Back to psychology. That the landings actually happened is rooted in the conception that man can do most anything and that this was a great achievement. Optimism. Moon hoax is rooted in pessimism. That man can barely do anything and that it’s much easier and infinitely preferable to simply hoax anything.
If you wish, you can simply reside in your position that no, it’s this and not that. I am merely pointing out an angle. It is indeed an uncomfortable one, for the hoax aspect describes mankind as a low IQ asshole who just tricks everyone. The challenge is this: try and describe, if, say the moon landing was real and actual, try to describe that potential reality in any way negative, pessimistic or cynical.
And therein you will find that it can’t be done. There is no way to paint the landing, if actual and real, in a negative light. About the best one can do is to say “well it wasn’t necessary.”
Still waiting for the armchair engineers to do the cheap astrophotography test that I outlined in the comment above.
It provides a Null Test for the alleged landings, or at least the "proof" offered by the orbiter photos.
But only pessimistic conspiracy theorists design and perform tests of the ideas. Brilliant minds expound on Government Truth with No Questions Asked.
The fraud is pretty clear. Imagery in Google Earth (Moon) contradicts the Apollo photographic record. Perspective views shown in some panoramas and the simulations generated by the software show discrepancies on every single mission - something the film makers could not have known in 1969. Lunar features like surface anomalies and foreground hills differ. Google Earth-moon reveals the stars are easily visible. Univ of Athens in Greece did some detailed analysis of the photos, found most were composite. No one was bright enought to plant a telescope yet they played golf. The star canopy was blacked out for obvious reasons.
Both the Moon and Mars, being somewhat distant, have specific times for signals to arrive at earth. Pretty good test. As for photography, Indians photographed the lunar lander, the original.
As far as armchair shall we say astronomers, those aren’t who I would depend on for any proof. Nor the so-called professionals. What I would depend on is the milliards of data points, far more than hoaxer data, pointing to a very real moon landing and the rovers on Mars.
Always look at the data. Compare, evaluate. If the greater amount of data pointed to a hoax, then hoax it might be. I tend otwards mights and maybes, data points to, etc.
The Indian photos are the smoking gun.
Compare the Indian photos with your own photos, of similar size targets here on Earth, at the same distance.
Then report back on your findings, and explain why the Indian photos prove that we landed on the moon, when placed side by side with your photos.
It's more fun running your own tests than developing theories based on "evidence" from NASA and hoaxers.
The photos are just 1 part of a 100 problems the narrative has. By themselves they prove nothing. When aligned with the 100 other problems a pattern emerges....
The Apollo narrative is that the Apollo 11 crew allegedly were on the lunar surface for just a couple of hours – not enough time to register that the Earth remains in the same location in the sky while the positions of the stars slowly change behind it. This is false.
First, they certainly would have seen the brilliance of the lunar sky. As would the crews of other missions, especially Apollos 15 to 17, scheduled to stay on the lunar surface for much longer – over six hours, three times each. Had they really been there, these longer missions would also have noticed that the stars moved across the sky and some of the best-known constellations would have passed behind the Earth. There is no record of this. It was not difficult to plant a telescope and observe which a normal person would have done.
Second, there are Earth bound demonstrations of photos and details in bright sunlight. The lessons are unambiguous. First, in order to see the stars, the Sun shouldn’t be in direct line of sight or in the field of vision – this would be easy to achieve. Secondly, an astronaut would need to block any reflections from the moon's reflective surface by moving his arms in front of his chest or closer to the visor. Not difficult. Yet in their images there are shadows all over the place - how is this possible on a reflective surface, unless artificial lighting is used.
Third, the fact that nothing about the lunar sky was ever discussed strongly suggests that none of the astronauts have ever spent any time on the lunar surface for real. None of them can remember any details. This is simply abnormal. It tells the farmer they were never there.
James Irwin, the pilot of Apollo 15, in his book (J. Irwin, 1973, p.100) epitomises the problem: “It was a beautiful sight as I looked out there: absolutely black, but there was so much of the sun’s reflected light on the vehicle that I couldn’t see the stars. It was scary and eerie out in that dark abyss of space.”
Sure James if you say so. Irwin's comment was describing his view out of the craft window on its way back to from the Moon. Yet he has nothing to say about the view from the surface. It screams out fraud.