This is often a test of a person's world-views, their philosophy, which they religiously hold, and how that informs their belief in, and their reaction to, authority, 'experts' and 'The Science'.
Extraordinarily well-done article. It's absorbed half my day (which is usually a great indicator of depth and quality).
I was unaware of the murder of Thomas Baron shortly after the murder of Gus Grissom and colleagues, and had also never heard the recording of that final horrific moment. (Or that they'd first tried to drown him).
These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless, and will murder anyone that comes too close to exposing them; from Heads of State, to their own staff, to bright inquisitive young men on YT like 23 year old Matthew North who was found in his car with a bullet through his temple, and the internet scrubbed of his 5 years of work.
It's not difficult to understand lies like Covid, when you have even bigger lies like this one as their predecessors.
Thanks Sez. Yes a long post unfortunately, hard to break it apart given that all the pieces fit together in some way. Baron was likely murdered in his house (along with his family), put in a car, and planted on the railway line. Apparently the train that hit him (central Florida) was supposedly linked to the government. Hard to imagine that his very detailed description of issues with the command module were fixed in 2 years. But that is their story.
As you said:
"These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless"
Indeed. Trump talks about 'bad people'. He now has a chance to expose them. Let's hope he does.
It's a good read and he has the right attitude, but his book has many bad or sloppy arguments which can be easily debunked. Your average 'true believer' only needs to debunk one thing and they will feel justified dismissing the whole topic so I wouldn't recommend his book as a tool to 'wake people up' on Apollo.
His book (and interviews) on the contrived hippie/ youth movement, the music biz and Laurel canyon is much better. In fact it's a must read.
To sum up: common sense = logic. Most people don’t use it, tho they possess it.
Appealing to Authority Fallacies are based on tribal affiliation and emotion.
It’s just too stressful for many to consider that, logically, those who rise to the highest levels are very good at gaining status and maintaining status regardless of - and often at great cost to - the truth.
Yes, Bill Clinton's carpenter had it right. Common sense, not degrees, not authority. Even the carpenter's 'lying eyes' saw through the moon charade. But not Bill.
During the Corona plandemic. I was doing some work on the house and we had a carpenter here (it was during the lockdowns etc). None of us were diapered and he knew I was not stabbed (given that I freely told everyone who had ears). So I asked the carpenter about the Corona theatre.
He laughed and said, that whatever the TV and government were saying was nothing but lies. They were 'making a huge thing, out of nothing, for their own purposes'. He referenced his seething anger at being cut off from his mother and the human costs of the lockdowns, including the effects on his young daughter's mental health - 'over nothing' he said.
Sounds like Clinton's carpenter - high IQs based on working in reality. There is a great degree of difference in common sense and utility between people who work and create with their hands, and the laptop class.
Oh, ye of little faith 😳 Billions of Hollywood and DOD dollars have gone into the "Impossible isn't American" narrative and you've gone and burst the bubble with very unpleasant facts. Next you'll be telling us that the same guy behind the anthrax "terrorist attacks" ran the company that subsequently mandated US military "anthrax vaccines", was behind Tamiflu, financed Reagan to get Aspartam FDA approval after it was found to be highly toxic under Carter, made millions through USAID in Irak and then some... 😈
Indeed. Imagine conjuring up the 'moon landings' to partake of say U$200 billion in funding. Reminds one of the Corona...all those contracts, PPE, stabbinations, supplies, studies...all these piglets across the G20 and large corporations snorting and gobbling from the collective trough of U$ 1 Trillion or more on offer during the plandemic...perish the thought of profits, evil and sin on a leviathan scale :)
Good list. I have started a series of articles on the hard problems behind a manned moon landing, doing deep dives into each. My background is engineering.
The first covers how vacuum damages photographic film:
Thanks for the links. This is great information. Totally agree on both. Radiation would destroy the film notwithstanding all the other issues with the photos and film. The Hasselblads were never tested for 250F and high radiation (in fact no radiation readings are available, lost of course). And yes heat shields and re-entry...no computer, no guidance system, no pre-testing of the 'ablative shields', at least nothing in the public domain (where, how, the results etc?) ....bouncing through 12 layers of atmosphere at 24000 mph....hmmm. Yes something is not right. I would put my money on the C35 military plane dropping the actornauts from about 10.000 feet.... :)
When people get mad with me about my denial of moon landings I always ask them what changes if I believe suddenly? Does my mortgage get waved off? I don't have to pay taxes anymore? Or maybe I just get my salary without actual work? Moonlandings/ mars expeditions and other crap are fairytales to let the people wonder off and forget about the daily struggles.
Indeed. 'Why' is a good question. It is a colossal investment for what purpose? Cui bono besides all the pigs in the trough? What is the ROI - costs vs benefits? Why is NASA a group of climate clowns predicting apocalypse from plant food, but can't tell us how the comms worked on Apollo 11? What is on dead cold Mars? How would you survive?
We have satellites in high orbit, supposedly probes have circumnavigated the moon many times. Point a satellite and a high powered scope at the moon from either a sat and probe and just show the jeeps they left! Apparently they folded up and were easy to carry but were left on the moon. Or were they left somewhere on Earth?
Yes spot on. Bond the moon 'denier' :) The jeeps have always been a mystery. I could never figure out why they would push that - opens up all sorts of questions and was largely unnecessary to push their script.
The Kubrick admission video is fake, that guy is an actor. You actually link to a video in this post that proves this. The video is under your "here at minute 17:30" link. Here's the relevant part: https://youtu.be/yDyJe1nmSOM?t=2200
The ‘astronauts’ looked utterly devastated not confused. If they’d been to the moon & back they’d be thoroughly elated to be back & would be falling over each other to share their experience. But they could hardly form a coherent sentence between them & kept looking at each other like kids being questioned by the headmaster. They never went, nobody ever went & nobody will ever go to the moon. It’s a light not a rock. Read your Bible not NASA BS 🧐
Absolutely. 'Did you see stars'? The fake news throws an easy softball and the smartest guys evah, can't hit it. 'Yes, no, maybe, can't remember'....They voyaged 500 K miles and can't tell us about radiation, the 250F sunlight, the van allen belts, the stars, the chemical composition of the 1/6 (vs earth) atmosphere, the tremendous thrill of going 24000 mph in a fat bottomed cone through 12 layers of atmosphere with no controls, directly (of course) on target in the little lake called the Pacific.....
Now they are dropping 'probes' on the moon (supposedly) but none that can show the jeeps or golf clubs.
This is a very impressive, comprehensive and convincing article and compilation of very much material, thank you. I just noticed that close to the end of the article the speed of light is stated as 186,000 miles per hour needs - I just checked this because it did not seem right & the units should be miles per second.
Haven't finished the article yet, but just noticed an error in your argument against sustained G force. G force is a measure of acceleration, not speed (if I recall my high school physics correctly). So, while 17,000+ mph is an incredible speed, once it is reached and maintained, there is zero G force on occupants of the craft. How quickly the speed was reach may still be a valid point, but traveling that fast for 20 hours is of no consequence.
Yes, I thought that also. It is the acceleration that counts and not the absolute speed. But if I remember correctly it seems like the acceleration forces would still have been considerable to reach that terminal velocity in a relatively short period of time.
They are limp however after Apollo 11. So that narrative has a problem. They moved because of external forces - likely a fan. There is no wind to make them move. Supposedly no atmosphere.
Mythbusters - sorry that is 100% narrative and fake. As the post says, people watch some highly paid debunking nonsense and then retreat back to pink pony world.
They have been busted and dusted.
Same as the hammer and feather fraud which is edited film.
Regarding the hammer and feather, by which I suppose you mean a hammer and feather falling at the same rate in a vacuum, that's also a very easy experiment to replicate. I've seen it done a few times in videos. But even just at a logical level, it makes sense. We can do a thought experiment: Suppose two people of the same mass are falling in a vacuum at the same speed, and now they reach out to each other and hold hands to form a single body, so to speak. Does that single body suddenly start accelerating faster because it has twice the mass? Why would it?
It's not a difficult experiment to put a flag in a vacuum chamber and shake it about. It makes total sense to me, in terms of physics, for a flag to keep moving in a vacuum due to momentum.
Do you have some evidence for a limp flag post Apollo 11? The flag I saw had a crossbar. Are you saying they got rid of that?
Thank you. That was great work, and the first time I've seen the materials (previously known and unknown to myself) compiled so completely. I feel armed to bring the receipts to friends who refuse to accept reality lest it causes them to collapse from sheer terror of our Truman Show.
Importantly, the evidence should be rock solid to make such an elaborate claim. It simply is not.
Thanks Iggy, glad you enjoyed it. We live supposedly in a 'rational' age but much of what passes for fact and 'science' is more theatre, acting and manipulation than reality. Ironically the 'modern world' laments the 'superstition' and 'irrationality' of the ancient. The lack of self-awareness of our society is painful.
A dull Job 4 themselves the biggest hopus pocus for everyone else the usual greatest achievements for 💤 zombies. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."
An illusion, so large, so vast it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane ~ Going nowhere since ever it's a enclosed system period.
Indeed. A deception so massive, so innately evil and corrupt, that its very existence must be denied, otherwise, worldviews are shattered and philosophies destroyed.
Great article. My initial misgiving around faking it was related to how you would coordinate it. But then it occurred to me that maybe they initially wanted to do it for real, so they would have started with people who think it's real and likely made some real progress. Then maybe they ran into some difficulties, and at that point people at the top made the decision to break off a small group to "get it back on track" - this was the group who knew the truth and like you said, it only needed to be maybe 100 people who saw that the parts didn't quite work together. Presumably some lower level people thought things might have been a bit off, but they could be told it was compensated for somewhere else. Falsifying scientific or business results is not uncommon, it's just not usually this high-profile. And also, to soothe their consciences, they can say they didn't want to deceive anyone, they tried their best, but it's necessary to defeat Communism.
Thanks, yes, the number of issues is too great to ignore. And what most people forget is that NASA is part of the US Military and is part of the great money laundering complex. It feeds the political-military-educational systems today. It is a vast well connected machine. There was every incentive to fake the landings a feat they cannot replicate today and will never replicate in the future. The Russians sent cosmonauts into deep space only to die and that is why they have never bothered to pursue a landing. They are also well paid to keep quiet and they have their own frauds and lies to cover up. To pull off a fraud and lie, you only need to manage the comms and imagery.
As I pointed out to numerous true believers, it is very simple to validate or disprove the alleged moon landings from your home town with cheap equipment.
Here's how:
Take the cheapest astrophotography setup you can buy on Craigslist. Do not pay more than 150-, that would be cheating.
Using this gear, take a photo of a terrestrial target that is about the same size as the lunar module and 7-9 miles away, the same distance as the China/India/US lunar orbiters that photographed the alleged landing sites and 'proved' that we went to the moon. A couple of these photos are in the article but there are more.
When you are done, compare the image quality of your cheap Craigslist setup with the multimillion dollar imaging systems on the orbiters and their photos of the moon landing sites with no atmospheric distortion.
Without fail, when asked to do this simple test, the true believers will spew lengthy ad hominem attacks, but never produce the pictures.
Good post, thanks. Yes, I have seen this performed by people (their results I should say). Vacuum analysis of the Apollo-photos also reveal obvious flaws and compositions. Many of the photos are crude composites, not singular images. I still don't understand why we can't see the 'jeeps' there, surely they are large enough to identify with our powerful scopes and probes.
Extraordinarily well-done article. It's absorbed half my day (which is usually a great indicator of depth and quality).
I was unaware of the murder of Thomas Baron shortly after the murder of Gus Grissom and colleagues, and had also never heard the recording of that final horrific moment. (Or that they'd first tried to drown him).
These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless, and will murder anyone that comes too close to exposing them; from Heads of State, to their own staff, to bright inquisitive young men on YT like 23 year old Matthew North who was found in his car with a bullet through his temple, and the internet scrubbed of his 5 years of work.
It's not difficult to understand lies like Covid, when you have even bigger lies like this one as their predecessors.
Great work.
Thanks Sez. Yes a long post unfortunately, hard to break it apart given that all the pieces fit together in some way. Baron was likely murdered in his house (along with his family), put in a car, and planted on the railway line. Apparently the train that hit him (central Florida) was supposedly linked to the government. Hard to imagine that his very detailed description of issues with the command module were fixed in 2 years. But that is their story.
As you said:
"These multi billion dollar money-laundering operations will never be shut down, because the people behind them are ruthless"
Indeed. Trump talks about 'bad people'. He now has a chance to expose them. Let's hope he does.
I had no idea about Joe Rogan.. but I believe it now! Thank you for the name drop RIP
https://www.brighteon.com/350951dc-29d2-4873-9448-94c52f69be54
Dave McGowan’s series on the moon landings is worth a read, very funny and insightful:
https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie-1/
This is excellent, thanks for sharing. Very good insights.
It's a good read and he has the right attitude, but his book has many bad or sloppy arguments which can be easily debunked. Your average 'true believer' only needs to debunk one thing and they will feel justified dismissing the whole topic so I wouldn't recommend his book as a tool to 'wake people up' on Apollo.
His book (and interviews) on the contrived hippie/ youth movement, the music biz and Laurel canyon is much better. In fact it's a must read.
https://rumble.com/v60ykdw-how-we-faked-the-moon-landing-with-bart-sibrel-candace-ep-124.html
To sum up: common sense = logic. Most people don’t use it, tho they possess it.
Appealing to Authority Fallacies are based on tribal affiliation and emotion.
It’s just too stressful for many to consider that, logically, those who rise to the highest levels are very good at gaining status and maintaining status regardless of - and often at great cost to - the truth.
Yes, Bill Clinton's carpenter had it right. Common sense, not degrees, not authority. Even the carpenter's 'lying eyes' saw through the moon charade. But not Bill.
During the Corona plandemic. I was doing some work on the house and we had a carpenter here (it was during the lockdowns etc). None of us were diapered and he knew I was not stabbed (given that I freely told everyone who had ears). So I asked the carpenter about the Corona theatre.
He laughed and said, that whatever the TV and government were saying was nothing but lies. They were 'making a huge thing, out of nothing, for their own purposes'. He referenced his seething anger at being cut off from his mother and the human costs of the lockdowns, including the effects on his young daughter's mental health - 'over nothing' he said.
Sounds like Clinton's carpenter - high IQs based on working in reality. There is a great degree of difference in common sense and utility between people who work and create with their hands, and the laptop class.
Oh, ye of little faith 😳 Billions of Hollywood and DOD dollars have gone into the "Impossible isn't American" narrative and you've gone and burst the bubble with very unpleasant facts. Next you'll be telling us that the same guy behind the anthrax "terrorist attacks" ran the company that subsequently mandated US military "anthrax vaccines", was behind Tamiflu, financed Reagan to get Aspartam FDA approval after it was found to be highly toxic under Carter, made millions through USAID in Irak and then some... 😈
Indeed. Imagine conjuring up the 'moon landings' to partake of say U$200 billion in funding. Reminds one of the Corona...all those contracts, PPE, stabbinations, supplies, studies...all these piglets across the G20 and large corporations snorting and gobbling from the collective trough of U$ 1 Trillion or more on offer during the plandemic...perish the thought of profits, evil and sin on a leviathan scale :)
Good list. I have started a series of articles on the hard problems behind a manned moon landing, doing deep dives into each. My background is engineering.
The first covers how vacuum damages photographic film:
https://erikbuilds.substack.com/p/the-hard-problems-behind-why-the?r=ih3h3
The second covers the design and viability of the heat shields for re-entry:
https://erikbuilds.substack.com/p/the-hard-problems-behind-why-the-5b0?r=ih3h3
Thanks for the links. This is great information. Totally agree on both. Radiation would destroy the film notwithstanding all the other issues with the photos and film. The Hasselblads were never tested for 250F and high radiation (in fact no radiation readings are available, lost of course). And yes heat shields and re-entry...no computer, no guidance system, no pre-testing of the 'ablative shields', at least nothing in the public domain (where, how, the results etc?) ....bouncing through 12 layers of atmosphere at 24000 mph....hmmm. Yes something is not right. I would put my money on the C35 military plane dropping the actornauts from about 10.000 feet.... :)
When people get mad with me about my denial of moon landings I always ask them what changes if I believe suddenly? Does my mortgage get waved off? I don't have to pay taxes anymore? Or maybe I just get my salary without actual work? Moonlandings/ mars expeditions and other crap are fairytales to let the people wonder off and forget about the daily struggles.
Indeed. 'Why' is a good question. It is a colossal investment for what purpose? Cui bono besides all the pigs in the trough? What is the ROI - costs vs benefits? Why is NASA a group of climate clowns predicting apocalypse from plant food, but can't tell us how the comms worked on Apollo 11? What is on dead cold Mars? How would you survive?
We have satellites in high orbit, supposedly probes have circumnavigated the moon many times. Point a satellite and a high powered scope at the moon from either a sat and probe and just show the jeeps they left! Apparently they folded up and were easy to carry but were left on the moon. Or were they left somewhere on Earth?
If I remember rightly, the rovers played a starring role in James Bond's Moonraker 😁
Yes spot on. Bond the moon 'denier' :) The jeeps have always been a mystery. I could never figure out why they would push that - opens up all sorts of questions and was largely unnecessary to push their script.
The Kubrick admission video is fake, that guy is an actor. You actually link to a video in this post that proves this. The video is under your "here at minute 17:30" link. Here's the relevant part: https://youtu.be/yDyJe1nmSOM?t=2200
Thanks for that, will update with the same.
https://www.aulis.com/
This site has most of your arguments, and goes into more detail on a lot of them.
A decade ago, the arguments on the lack of background parallax in all of the photographs are what clued me in to the beginning of the problems.
https://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
Thanks, a great resource.
The ‘astronauts’ looked utterly devastated not confused. If they’d been to the moon & back they’d be thoroughly elated to be back & would be falling over each other to share their experience. But they could hardly form a coherent sentence between them & kept looking at each other like kids being questioned by the headmaster. They never went, nobody ever went & nobody will ever go to the moon. It’s a light not a rock. Read your Bible not NASA BS 🧐
Absolutely. 'Did you see stars'? The fake news throws an easy softball and the smartest guys evah, can't hit it. 'Yes, no, maybe, can't remember'....They voyaged 500 K miles and can't tell us about radiation, the 250F sunlight, the van allen belts, the stars, the chemical composition of the 1/6 (vs earth) atmosphere, the tremendous thrill of going 24000 mph in a fat bottomed cone through 12 layers of atmosphere with no controls, directly (of course) on target in the little lake called the Pacific.....
Now they are dropping 'probes' on the moon (supposedly) but none that can show the jeeps or golf clubs.
This is a very impressive, comprehensive and convincing article and compilation of very much material, thank you. I just noticed that close to the end of the article the speed of light is stated as 186,000 miles per hour needs - I just checked this because it did not seem right & the units should be miles per second.
Thanks Howard for the catch, correct. It is per second, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that out.
Haven't finished the article yet, but just noticed an error in your argument against sustained G force. G force is a measure of acceleration, not speed (if I recall my high school physics correctly). So, while 17,000+ mph is an incredible speed, once it is reached and maintained, there is zero G force on occupants of the craft. How quickly the speed was reach may still be a valid point, but traveling that fast for 20 hours is of no consequence.
Yes, I thought that also. It is the acceleration that counts and not the absolute speed. But if I remember correctly it seems like the acceleration forces would still have been considerable to reach that terminal velocity in a relatively short period of time.
You are correct velocity of the source is important (Relativity denies this).
Sorry, 10 days, not 20 hours (re Apollo 9)
A flag will "flutter" in a vacuum. I've seen this demonstrated twice, on Myth Busters and on The Action Lab channel on YouTube.
They are limp however after Apollo 11. So that narrative has a problem. They moved because of external forces - likely a fan. There is no wind to make them move. Supposedly no atmosphere.
Mythbusters - sorry that is 100% narrative and fake. As the post says, people watch some highly paid debunking nonsense and then retreat back to pink pony world.
They have been busted and dusted.
Same as the hammer and feather fraud which is edited film.
Regarding the hammer and feather, by which I suppose you mean a hammer and feather falling at the same rate in a vacuum, that's also a very easy experiment to replicate. I've seen it done a few times in videos. But even just at a logical level, it makes sense. We can do a thought experiment: Suppose two people of the same mass are falling in a vacuum at the same speed, and now they reach out to each other and hold hands to form a single body, so to speak. Does that single body suddenly start accelerating faster because it has twice the mass? Why would it?
It's not a difficult experiment to put a flag in a vacuum chamber and shake it about. It makes total sense to me, in terms of physics, for a flag to keep moving in a vacuum due to momentum.
Do you have some evidence for a limp flag post Apollo 11? The flag I saw had a crossbar. Are you saying they got rid of that?
Thank you. That was great work, and the first time I've seen the materials (previously known and unknown to myself) compiled so completely. I feel armed to bring the receipts to friends who refuse to accept reality lest it causes them to collapse from sheer terror of our Truman Show.
Importantly, the evidence should be rock solid to make such an elaborate claim. It simply is not.
An Excellent Report!
Thanks Iggy, glad you enjoyed it. We live supposedly in a 'rational' age but much of what passes for fact and 'science' is more theatre, acting and manipulation than reality. Ironically the 'modern world' laments the 'superstition' and 'irrationality' of the ancient. The lack of self-awareness of our society is painful.
A dull Job 4 themselves the biggest hopus pocus for everyone else the usual greatest achievements for 💤 zombies. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."
An illusion, so large, so vast it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane ~ Going nowhere since ever it's a enclosed system period.
Indeed. A deception so massive, so innately evil and corrupt, that its very existence must be denied, otherwise, worldviews are shattered and philosophies destroyed.
Indeed to your 'indeed'.
"Professing to be wise, they became fools..." (Romans 1:22)
“The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.” — Helen Keller
Great article. My initial misgiving around faking it was related to how you would coordinate it. But then it occurred to me that maybe they initially wanted to do it for real, so they would have started with people who think it's real and likely made some real progress. Then maybe they ran into some difficulties, and at that point people at the top made the decision to break off a small group to "get it back on track" - this was the group who knew the truth and like you said, it only needed to be maybe 100 people who saw that the parts didn't quite work together. Presumably some lower level people thought things might have been a bit off, but they could be told it was compensated for somewhere else. Falsifying scientific or business results is not uncommon, it's just not usually this high-profile. And also, to soothe their consciences, they can say they didn't want to deceive anyone, they tried their best, but it's necessary to defeat Communism.
Thanks, yes, the number of issues is too great to ignore. And what most people forget is that NASA is part of the US Military and is part of the great money laundering complex. It feeds the political-military-educational systems today. It is a vast well connected machine. There was every incentive to fake the landings a feat they cannot replicate today and will never replicate in the future. The Russians sent cosmonauts into deep space only to die and that is why they have never bothered to pursue a landing. They are also well paid to keep quiet and they have their own frauds and lies to cover up. To pull off a fraud and lie, you only need to manage the comms and imagery.
As I pointed out to numerous true believers, it is very simple to validate or disprove the alleged moon landings from your home town with cheap equipment.
Here's how:
Take the cheapest astrophotography setup you can buy on Craigslist. Do not pay more than 150-, that would be cheating.
Using this gear, take a photo of a terrestrial target that is about the same size as the lunar module and 7-9 miles away, the same distance as the China/India/US lunar orbiters that photographed the alleged landing sites and 'proved' that we went to the moon. A couple of these photos are in the article but there are more.
When you are done, compare the image quality of your cheap Craigslist setup with the multimillion dollar imaging systems on the orbiters and their photos of the moon landing sites with no atmospheric distortion.
Without fail, when asked to do this simple test, the true believers will spew lengthy ad hominem attacks, but never produce the pictures.
Good post, thanks. Yes, I have seen this performed by people (their results I should say). Vacuum analysis of the Apollo-photos also reveal obvious flaws and compositions. Many of the photos are crude composites, not singular images. I still don't understand why we can't see the 'jeeps' there, surely they are large enough to identify with our powerful scopes and probes.